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The following Minutes have been extracted from the records
of the Bank's General Committee and its Sub-Committees.
 
The Minutes cover the period from October 1928 to December 1937.
As very large housing estates were being proposed on the northern side of the city following the incorporation of Perry Barr within the boundaries of Birmingham in 1928, the Bank's Committee of Management began to look for suitable sites for branches. Prior to Perry Barr becoming part of Birmingham, the City Council had purchased a number of farms in the area, including Warren Farm, Kings Vale Farm, and Kettlehouse Farm. At the time, the Kettlehouse Estate was the largest local authority social housing development in Europe. The Kingstanding Circle was built as a shopping hub for the Kingstanding Estate and it was here (at the junction of the Kingstanding and Kings Roads) that the Bank initially chose to locate a branch. However, the Committee were unwilling to spend excessively in this part of the city and, eventually, a cheaper site was obtained at 595 Kingstanding Road. In due course, the branch became one of the Bank's busiest offices.

General Purposes Sub-Committee: October 8th 1928

 

The General Manager submitted the following report with regard to Corporation Housing Estates, particulars of which had been furnished by the City Surveyor:

 

Corporation Housing Estates.

 

The City Surveyor has furnished me with a plan and particulars of estates which the Corporation are about to lay out for house building purposes, with a request that I would inform him of any requirements of the Bank Committee in respect of branch Banks.

 

Warren Farm and Kings Vale Farm Estates, Perry Barr, on which 5,700 houses are to be erected.

 

1313   RESOLVED:- That the report be approved, and that the General Manager be instructed to inform the City Surveyor that it is considered desirable that a suitable site should be secured for Bank purposes on the Warren Farm or King's Vale Farm Estates, Perry Barr.

 

General Purposes Sub-Committee: December 10th 1928

 

On Minute No 1313 (Suggested site on Warren Farm or King's Vale Farm Estates, Perry Barr), the General Manager reported that the Public Works Department proposed to develop this Estate at an early date and wished to know whether the Bank Committee desired to have a site reserved for a Branch Bank.

 

1327   RESOLVED:- That the General Manager be instructed to make arrangements for this Sub-Committee to visit the site on the 12th instant at 10am with a view to considering the matter on the spot.

 

General Purposes Sub-Committee: January 14th 1929

 

1343   On Minutes Nos 1313 and 1327 (Suggested sites at Warren Farm or Kings Vale Farm Estates, Perry Barr) the Sub-Committee were informed that the City Surveyor had asked for this matter to be decided, and the General Manager was directed to arrange for the City Surveyor to meet the Sub-Committee on the site, and at the same time to inspect the land at the corner of Perry Common Road and Turf Pits lane, which had been offered to the Bank.

 

General Purposes Sub-Committee: April 14th 1930

 

The General Manager submitted proposals prepared by the City Surveyor for the development of the Kettlehouse Farm and Messuage Farm Estates in regard to which he had been asked whether a site for the Bank was desired.

 

1525  RESOLVED:- That arrangements be made at a convenient date for representatives of this Sub-Committee to visit the site with the City Surveyor and that in the meantime the City Surveyor be asked to provisionally reserve a site for the Bank.

 

Bank Committee: June 16th 1930

 

3798   The following report of the General Purposes Sub-Committee was presented:

 

Proposed new sites for Branches.

 

Your Sub-Committee have visited sites at Perry Barr and on the Weoley Castle Farm Estate and have selected two sites for Branch Banks, subject to satisfactory terms as to purchase price being arranged, one at Perry Barr at the junction of Kingstanding Road and Kings Road and the other in the centre of the Weoley Castle Farm Estate.

 

It should be pointed out that the very extensive building programme in the Perry Barr area which the Public Works and Town Planning Committee are carrying out, plus the private building of houses which is contemplated, causes your Sub-Committee to feel that it may be necessary to provide still more Branches in the area, and without committing themselves they have asked the City Surveyor to reserve two other sites which can be examined at a later date when the estates are more developed.

 

In this connection your Sub-Committee consider that the less expensive type of Branch Bank should suffice in these areas, and that the same should apply to the proposed Branch Bank at the corner of College Road and Brackenbury Road. In the opinion of your Sub-Committee the cost of such a building should not exceed 2750 and they recommend accordingly.

 

3801  RESOLVED:- That, subject to satisfactory terms being arranged with the Committees concerned, the Council be asked to approve the transfer to this Committee of the sites referred to in the foregoing report, at the corner of Kingstanding Road and Kings Road, and in the centre of the Weoley Castle Farm Estate; and that the action taken in regard to reserving other sites be confirmed.

 

Bank Committee: October 20th 1930

 

On Minute No 3801 (Sites - Kingstanding and Weoley Castle Farm Estates), it was:

 

3856   RESOLVED:- That the question of these sites be referred to the General Purposes Sub-Committee for consideration.

 

Bank Committee: December 15th 1930

 

3925   The following report of the General Purposes Sub-Committee was presented:

 

Proposed Branch Bank - Warren Farm Estate.

 

A scheme has been prepared by the City Surveyor for the development of a shopping area in Kingstanding Road and it is suggested that the proposed branch bank should form part of such scheme, and should be in harmony with the other buildings.

 

Your Sub-Committee have considered a preliminary plan prepared by the City Surveyor, and recommend that the latter be instructed to prepare a detailed plan for the erection of suitable premises at a cost not exceeding 2500.

 

The area of land in Kingstanding Road proposed to be allocated to the Bank is approximately 588 square yards and your Sub-Committee recommend that subject to agreement with the Estates Committee as to price the Council be asked to approve the transfer of this area to your Committee.

 

A sketch plan prepared by the City Surveyor of the layout of the proposed Branch Bank and shops on the Warren Farm Estate was submitted to the Committee, and it was:

 

3926   RESOLVED:- That, subject to agreement with the Estates Committee as to price, the Council be asked to transfer to this Committee the required area of land for the erection of a Branch Bank in Kingstanding Road referred to in the foregoing report; also that the City Surveyor be instructed to prepare a detailed plan for the erection of suitable Branch Bank premises on the site at a cost of not exceeding 2,500, in conjunction with the scheme for the erection of shops.

 

 

Bank Committee: January 19th 1931

 

On Minute No 3926 (Site in Kingstanding Road), the General Manager submitted a block plan of the site, received from the City Surveyor, showing an amended area of 497 square yards.

 

3945   RESOLVED:- That the revised area of the land proposed to be transferred be approved, and that the General Manager be instructed to approach the General Manager of the Estates Department upon the question of the terms to be arranged.

 

Bank Committee: February 16th 1931

 

3982   The following report of the General Purposes Sub-Committee was presented:

 

Site in Kingstanding Road.

 

As directed by Minute No 3926, the City Surveyor has submitted to your Sub-Committee his plan and elevation for the Branch Bank on this site. It was pointed out that the levels of the land would necessitate extra excavations which would add approximately 100 to the cost of the building decided upon by the Committee, viz 2500.

 

The plan and elevation will be on view at the meeting of your Committee and it is recommended that the same be approved and also the increase in the estimated cost.

 

When the terms of transfer have been arranged and the sanction of the City Council obtained, your Sub-Committee propose to invite Tenders for the carrying out of the work.

 

3985  RESOLVED:- That subject to the price of the land being agreed to, the plan and elevation of the proposed Branch Bank premises to be erected in Kingstanding Road at a revised estimated cost of 2,600 be approved; and that the instruction contained in Minute No 3926 be amended accordingly.

 

Bank Committee: April 20th 1931

 

4045   The following report of the General Purposes Sub-Committee was presented:

 

Kingstanding Site - Warren Farm.

 

Your Sub-Committee are informed that the District Valuer values this site of 497 square yards at 500. The Bank's Valuer (Mr Frank Wilde), however, has put a maximum valuation on the land of 397. 12. 0. representing 16/- per square yard, and having regard to prices paid for other land in the locality your Sub-Committee do not feel justified in accepting the District Valuer's figure. They have therefore instructed the General Manager to inform the Estates Department that the Bank are not prepared to pay more than 16/- per square yard for the land in question, and if this offer is not acceptable then the proposal to take over the site should be abandoned.

 

4049   RESOLVED:- That the General Manager be directed to inform the Estates Department that the Bank are not prepared to pay more than 16/- per square yard for the Kingstanding site on the Warren Farm Estate and that, should this offer be not acceptable, it is proposed to abandon the proposal to take over the site.

 

Bank Committee: May 18th 1931

 

4073   The following report of the General Purposes Sub-Committee was presented:

 

Kingstanding Site - Warren Farm Estate.

 

Your Committee at their last meeting instructed the General Manager to inform the Estates Department that they are not prepared to pay more than 16/- per square yard for this site. The General Manager of the Estates Department put the views of your Committee before the District Valuer, who has again, however, expressed the view that this site would readily let for shops at his valuation of approximately 1 per square yard, which he could not see his way to reduce.

 

Your Sub-Committee adhere to their opinion that this price is excessive and recommend that the Estates Committee be informed that under the circumstances the proposal to take over the site in question will be abandoned.

 

4075   RESOLVED:- That the Estates Committee be informed that as this Committee is not prepared to pay for the Kingstanding site on the Warren Farm Estate on the basis of the District Valuer's valuation the proposal to take over this site will be abandoned; and that Minutes Nos 3926, 3945 and 4049 be discharged.

 

Bank Committee: July 20th 1931

 

Site, corner of Kings Road and Rough Road, Kingstanding.

 

The General Manager reported that the District Valuer had again been approached by the Estates Department with respect to his valuation of the site proposed to be transferred to the Bank, and as a result the District Valuer had intimated his willingness to reduce his valuation by 50, which brought the price down to 18/- per square yard as against the valuation by Mr Wilde of 16/- per square yard. The attention of the Committee was drawn to the fact that the Bank Committee originally agreed to the transfer of the site in question subject to the price being mutually agreed between the Bank and the Estates Department, and had actually approved plans prepared by the City Surveyor for the erection of a Bank on the site, such erection forming part of a development scheme of shops etc. When the District Valuer fixed a price of 1.  0.  0. per square yard the Bank Committee intimated they were not prepared to pay more than 16/- per square yard, and on the District Valuer being informed of the decision of the Bank Committee, he expressed the view that his valuation was fair and reasonable and could not see his way to amend the same. The Bank Committee thereupon decided to abandon the proposed purchase on the grounds of price. A new position had been created as a result of the District Valuer reducing his valuation to 18/- per square yard which now called for the consideration and decision of the Committee. The General Manager pointed out that since the matter was first discussed he understood there had been a variation in the building programme of the Public Works Department so far as the Kingstanding and Kettlehouse Farm Estates were concerned, and he thought it would be advisable for the members of the Committee to visit the site before coming to a decision in order to see the development which had been made and which was taking place.

 

4180  RESOLVED:- That arrangements be made for the Members to visit the site as early as possible at the call of the Chairman in order that the Estates Department may be acquainted of the final decision of this Committee.

 

General Purposes Sub-Committee: October 12th 1931

 

With reference to the proposed site at Kingstanding, the General Manager presented the following report:

 

Kingstanding Estate

 

At the last meeting of the Committee it was agreed to the transfer of a site at the junction of Kingstanding Road and Kings Road, at the amended price of 450, and that a Bank should be erected thereon by the City Surveyor in accordance with the plans which had already been approved.

 

On the 7th August, the General Manager of the Estates Department informed me that it was originally intended that the Estates Committee should develop the site themselves and let the shops on occupation leases. Mr F W Wheeldon, who has developed shopping sites in various parts of the City, had, however, approached the Department and offered to develop the whole of the area in question, and in consequence the Estates Committee had withdrawn their original Resolution and agreed to let the land on a building lease to Mr Wheeldon.

 

Immediately on receiving this letter, the Chairman directed me to withdraw the offer of the Bank to purchase the land at the amended price and to state that the matter would have to be further considered at the October meeting owing to the change of circumstances between the Estates Department and Mr Wheeldon.

 

The Chairman, with other members of the Sub-Committee, subsequently had an interview with Mr Broadley (Secretary of the Water Department) and Mr Wilkinson (Chief Engineer to the Department) regarding the land belonging to the Water Department, which was surplus to their requirements, and which was not far removed from the original site selected at Kingstanding. Mr Broadley intimated that there would be no difficulty in arrangements being made for the Bank to have such land as they may require for the purpose of the Bank, and that the decision could be arrived at by the Water Committee and the Bank Committee regarding the area and the price.

 

Mr Wallace Smith (General Manager of the Estates Department) now states (in a letter dated October 9th) that the scheme put forward by Mr Wheeldon to develop the whole of the area as a shopping market had been withdrawn by his Solicitors, Messrs Cohen and Cowen, on the grounds of ill-health of Mr Wheeldon. The Solicitors have intimated that they had a client who would be prepared to take over Mr Wheeldon's liability subject to a slight revision in terms. Mr Smith is reporting the position to his Committee with a view to developing the sire themselves in conjunction with the Municipal Bank.

 

1713   RESOLVED:- That the General Committee be recommended to abandon the proposed purchase of a site at the corner of Kings Road and Kingstanding Road, and that the Chairman of the General Committee and General Manager be authorised to negotiate with the Water Department for the transfer of a portion of their land to the Bank Committee with a view to the establishment of an evening Bank to meet the needs of this area. 

 

 

 

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The Lord Mayor arrives to open the
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